what the heck is

About the Podcast

What the Heck is Grace? is not your average Christian podcast.

It’s a real conversation between two mates, Michael and Joel, who have wrestled with faith, freedom, and everything in between.

This podcast started with one question: If grace is real, why do we still feel like we’re not good enough?

Each episode is raw and honest.

Michael shares the stuff no one likes to admit out loud, like reading the Bible alone for years and still feeling unsure about forgiveness.

Joel brings the questions, the pushback, and the curiosity that helps the conversation go deeper.

They talk about the difference between the Old and New Testament, how guilt still creeps in, and what it means to stop trying to earn what’s already been given.

This isn’t for people chasing a perfect answer.

It’s for anyone who has followed Jesus for a while and still thinks, “Wait, is this really how it works?”

If you’re ready for faith without the filter, this is your place.

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